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'''''Note:''' if I've made a clearly bad block, such as something that appears to be vandalism at first glance but actually has a good explanation, please unblock without waiting for me to come back online. If it's something less clear, please at least get consensus on AN/I first. Thanks.''
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== Talib controversy ==


Ah, you read the Rosser vs. Talib blog items. I never heard of Talib until last week, but found his derivative strategy interesting when I read about it. Then I found out his funds that used the strategy had tanked. (I run [http://www.downside.com Downside], so I follow stuff like that. He did [[Empirica LLC]], which Wikipedia says "was closed in 2004" and the WSJ says "shut down in 2004 after several years of lackluster returns amid a period of low volatility."[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122567265138591705.html]) I suspect the real problem with that strategy is that options that are way out of the money tend to be technically under-priced until you buy enough of them to be useful; then the price goes up. If that's the case, it's a cute idea theoretically but doesn't work in real trading against other players. No big deal; it's not the first time some quant ran into that problem.


== Feedback on potentially biased block ==
Why Talib and his supporters are losing it isn't clear. Talib's press is generally favorable, and the article approaches puffery. He's not as good as he thinks he is, though, which seems to be the problem. I'll leave that to others to untangle. --[[User:Nagle|John Nagle]] ([[User talk:Nagle|talk]]) 16:39, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


You have protected the Autism Speaks article because you say it will always be a target for what you term 'vandalism'. However, I feel this does not take the source of the "vandalism", and what I feel is the consequential enshrining of one side in a controversy without allowing the other side an opportunity to be heard. The reason I looked up the article in the first place was to find out why the administrator of the r:/autism reddit requested that no posts linking to that organization be posted because so '''''many''''' autistic Reddit members found them objectionable or questionable. And all I was thinking of doing, when I found there wasn't even an acknowledgement in the Wikipedia article that there even WAS any such controversy, was to add a perspective note worded something like, "To be fair, it should be noted that some people feel / believe / have a different opinion " ... whatever language it takes to be sure both sides have been fairly presented. If removing the block is a non-starter ... and I can understand how that might not be as simple as it seems ... please, in the interests of justice and fairness, at least add such a note yourself [[User:Dan O Shanter|Dan O Shanter]] ([[User talk:Dan O Shanter|talk]]) 06:13, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
== What I do? ==


== Full protection on Changi Airport ==
I'm still perplexed. Domer doesn't ''delete'' everybodies messages, yet mine continues to get no response (unless you consider deletion, a response). [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 18:31, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:Per [[WP:BLANKING]], he can delete whatever he wants from his userpage -- including my comments, as well. --[[User:SarekOfVulcan|SarekOfVulcan]] ([[User talk:SarekOfVulcan#top|talk]]) 18:34, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
::Oh I know, a fella's Userpage is his castle. But, it doesn't help collaboration wise. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 18:36, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


Hello, can you revert back to the last stable version on [[Changi Airport]] prior to the dispute? <span style="background:deepskyblue;padding:0.5px 10px;font-size:14px">[[User:Nkon21|<span style="color:azure">ɴᴋᴏɴ21</span>]] <span style="color:navy;letter-spacing:-2px">❯❯❯</span> [[User talk:Nkon21|<span style="color:#E4E4E2">talk</span>]]</span> 13:39, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
== Removing other people's comments ==
:No, I protected it at the [[WP:WRONGVERSION|version that stood when I got to it]]. Discuss on the article talk page. --[[User talk:SarekOfVulcan|<span class="gfSarekSig">SarekOfVulcan (talk)</span>]] 13:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
::That's why I filed a report at WP:ANI/3RR. They did not bother to address the points I made on their talk page(s), and instead continued to edit war in the matter of [[WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT]]. Reverting to the previous stable version will give them the incentive to continue the discussion on the talk page like they should have, instead of persistently reverting. Also, they never bothered to address their COI editing. <span style="background:deepskyblue;padding:0.5px 10px;font-size:14px">[[User:Nkon21|<span style="color:azure">ɴᴋᴏɴ21</span>]] <span style="color:navy;letter-spacing:-2px">❯❯❯</span> [[User talk:Nkon21|<span style="color:#E4E4E2">talk</span>]]</span> 13:48, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
:::So by that logic, ''you'' now have incentive to discuss on the article talkpage, and I again suggest you do so. --[[User talk:SarekOfVulcan|<span class="gfSarekSig">SarekOfVulcan (talk)</span>]] 13:56, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
::::Per this [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:202.55.83.233&diff=prev&oldid=1214489058 diff] I explained the reasons why their edit was not an improvement on their talk page, and received no response. They instead kept edit warring in the edit summaries sticking to their own viewpoint. So who has the incentive to continue the discussion on the talk page exactly? Frankly speaking, protecting the page will not do anything as the other user showed no interest in continuing the discussion as long as their preferred logo is on the article. <span style="background:deepskyblue;padding:0.5px 10px;font-size:14px">[[User:Nkon21|<span style="color:azure">ɴᴋᴏɴ21</span>]] <span style="color:navy;letter-spacing:-2px">❯❯❯</span> [[User talk:Nkon21|<span style="color:#E4E4E2">talk</span>]]</span> 14:08, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::The IP has not edited since you left that message, and also, THAT IS NOT THE ARTICLE TALK PAGE. You want your change to stick, get consensus ON THE ARTICLE TALK PAGE. --[[User talk:SarekOfVulcan|<span class="gfSarekSig">SarekOfVulcan (talk)</span>]] 14:13, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::I'm not sure that you understand that the IP and Caskin3 are clearly the same person (or a meatpuppet), as the latter was registered right after the IPs last edit and continued to edit war with the same viewpoint right afterwards. Regardless of the venue, they showed no interest in continuing the discussion on their talk pages atter I left them multiple messages and warnings. Also, there is absolutely no need to [[WP:SHOUT]] here. <span style="background:deepskyblue;padding:0.5px 10px;font-size:14px">[[User:Nkon21|<span style="color:azure">ɴᴋᴏɴ21</span>]] <span style="color:navy;letter-spacing:-2px">❯❯❯</span> [[User talk:Nkon21|<span style="color:#E4E4E2">talk</span>]]</span> 14:22, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
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:Yes, we do want editors to find it— but not find a biased, "summary." Please move it ALL back, leave as is, or write an unbiased summary--<span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:Carlaude|Carlaude]] <sup>[[User talk:Carlaude|talk]]</sup></span> 19:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::If you have a problem with the summary, address it here -- don't remove other people's comments. --User talk:SarekOfVulcan
This is '''my point'''!
:(1) I am ''not'' removing other people's comments-- I am keeping comments altogether. These comments already moved, copied, but only these pro-move comments have been left here and there!
:(2) Would rather that none of these be moved-- be if they are moved they should all be moved or at least not leave a notice from only one POV. --<span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:Carlaude|Carlaude]] <sup>[[User talk:Carlaude|talk]]</sup></span> 19:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::So object on the talkpage, don't censor what you feel to be a biased summary. --[[User:SarekOfVulcan|SarekOfVulcan]] ([[User talk:SarekOfVulcan|talk]]) 19:32, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


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== "Pelham" hatnote ==


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I would have appreciated having an opportunity to comment on the "Pelham" hatnote before any decision was made. The WP:HAT guideline is very clear as to what hatnotes are for. The specific point that indicates that the hatnote in question is not valid can be found at [[WP:HAT#Disambiguating article names that are not ambiguous]]. There is practically *no way* for a reader to arrive at [[The Taking of Pelham One Two Three (1974 film)]] without meaning to be there. All major variations of the ambiguous title ([[Taking of Pelham 123]], [[The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3]], [[The Taking of Pelham One Two Three]], etc.) lead to the disambiguation page. I specifically told this to Ed Fitzgerald. He has since removed this from his talkpage. This hatnote is not "useful". Nobody is going to type or click on a link that specifically and clearly leads to the 1974 film unless that is where they want to go. All roads that may be taken by someone unsure of where they want to be will lead to the disambiguation page. This hatnote is unnecessary, not helpful and should be removed as the guidlelines indicate. I think Ed has simply gotten the bit between his teeth and is refusing to admit that he is wrong on this.


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As for my status, I have a long history of editing on the Wikipedia, but choose to often do simple and obvious cleanup work without bothering to log in. That was the case here. I suppose once he started biting, I should have logged in, but I really thought he'd take the time to understand why the hatnote was unneeded or explain why he thought it was helpful (he hasn't, so far). Anyway, as a sign of good faith, I've logged in before responding to you. I will not remove the hatnote again at this time, but it is the right thing to do. [[User:Rhindle The Red|Rhindle The Red]] ([[User talk:Rhindle The Red|talk]]) 15:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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:Sorry for failing to use your "new note" link. Didn't spot it. [[User:Rhindle The Red|Rhindle The Red]] ([[User talk:Rhindle The Red|talk]]) 15:48, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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::Eh, same effect -- it's just for people who are too new to spot the + tab up top, like I was at the time. :-)
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::In any case, there are a couple of other ways to get to that link -- [[The Taking of Pelham One Two Three (film)]] and [[The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3]]. [[WP:NAMB]] doesn't seem to me to apply, as (1974 film), (1988 film), and (2009 film) aren't nearly as far apart as [[Tree]] and [[Tree (set theory)]]. You could make an argument that this _is_ the primary article, as it's likely the one most people would have been looking for until recently, and hence linking to a dab pag would clearly apply. Are you sure it's Ed with the bit in his teeth? --[[User:SarekOfVulcan|SarekOfVulcan]] ([[User talk:SarekOfVulcan#top|talk]]) 16:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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:::I just unprotected it -- it's obviously no longer needed. :-) --[[User:SarekOfVulcan|SarekOfVulcan]] ([[User talk:SarekOfVulcan#top|talk]]) 16:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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:It's not something I really have any control over. :-) If you want to participate in a WikiProject, you pretty much just do. See you around! --[[User:SarekOfVulcan|SarekOfVulcan]] ([[User talk:SarekOfVulcan#top|talk]]) 23:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
::Sarek, given [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:9/11_conspiracy_theories#9.2F11_Dollar_bill_images_request this] edit, we should keep an eye on what this fellow posts. [[User:Blueboar|Blueboar]] ([[User talk:Blueboar|talk]]) 23:57, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
:::As with anyone. :-) Yes, I do have some particular concerns -- but if he does a good job with the edits, it won't be a problem. --[[User:SarekOfVulcan|SarekOfVulcan]] ([[User talk:SarekOfVulcan#top|talk]]) 23:58, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


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:::: Nothing to worry about... I came here in peace. If I had other intentions or if it was a vandalism,it would be worse ... Still, thanks for the confidence. Best regards. --[[User:Lightwarrior2|Lightwarrior2]] ([[User talk:Lightwarrior2|talk]]) 06:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
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:::::BTW, Lightwarrior, everyone here who sees your username is going to immediately think of [[Wikipedia:Long term abuse/Lightbringer]], so don't be offended if it takes us a bit to warm up to you. :-) --[[User:SarekOfVulcan|SarekOfVulcan]] ([[User talk:SarekOfVulcan#top|talk]]) 12:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::: Once again, thanks for the confidence. :-) --[[User:Lightwarrior2|Lightwarrior2]] ([[User talk:Lightwarrior2|talk]]) 16:23, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


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I reported Jonnny Spasm for reverting the factual and cited material that fits in that paragraph. I don't see how it is fair for me to be threatened with being blocked when my reasons are it is relevant, factual, and sourced, and his reasons are 'will the real slim shady cut it out.' Remove the entire thing if one extra sentence is not valid. I notice an entire verse from Dialated Peeples on there, is that even legal? --[[Special:Contributions/216.17.75.89|216.17.75.89]] ([[User talk:216.17.75.89|talk]]) 18:55, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:And that source is where, exactly? (And I already cut that verse out, thanks for the notice.) --[[User:SarekOfVulcan|SarekOfVulcan]] ([[User talk:SarekOfVulcan#top|talk]]) 18:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::If you look at which one of us is writing what, you'd see which one of us is truly "warring." For that matter, look at his talk page.--[[User:Johnny Spasm|Johnny Spasm]] ([[User talk:Johnny Spasm|talk]]) 09:14, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


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Vote has been changed. [[User:HellinaBucket|Hell in a Bucket]] ([[User talk:HellinaBucket|talk]]) 23:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
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Sir, I don't believe I had the pleasure of meeting you. I haven't done anything to you, or spoken to you.
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I am attempting to resolve an issue of blatant abuse by user:Wuhwuzdat, and admin/user:Toddst1.
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I don't believe this involves you or requires your attention, unless of course you would like to assist in
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I fail to see your point. The consensus is delete. Silence does not mean opposition. [[Special:Contributions/65.120.179.226|65.120.179.226]] ([[User talk:65.120.179.226|talk]]) 02:14, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
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:There was never a consensus to merge Book's article. --[[User:SarekOfVulcan|SarekOfVulcan]] ([[User talk:SarekOfVulcan#top|talk]]) 02:20, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


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This revision war with Johnny Spasm is getting out of control. He simply reverted everything you changed, and I notice you didn't have a huge problem with the exact same thing being there. What I want to know is why he leaves up 'everlast says check eminem's kid for dna' and even the bit from the SAME song I am commenting on where eminem tells his fans to pelt everlast with rocks, but this other bit of information he says is BIASED. The only BIAS is him removing this information to protect his idol, Everlast. This is stupid. He clearly reverts how HE wants with no concern for the rules of Wikipedia or the facts of the matter, the other content of the article, or anything but his own misguided fandom.
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::I have gone to the talk page, which I did before. Johnny has not ONCE explained why that piece of information violates wikipedia policy. He calls it biased, but it is no more biased than the other information which is included in that paragraph and the one before. THE BURDEN IS ON HIM TO EXPLAIN, something he hasn't done and for some reason hasn't had any pressure on him to do. I insist that he give a rational, wikipedia policy based decision before he is allowed to change it. --[[Special:Contributions/216.17.75.89|216.17.75.89]] ([[User talk:216.17.75.89|talk]]) 14:31, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


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== Your recent RfA !vote ==
Hi. The contributor asserts permission on this one, though he has not yet verified. There's a discussion about it at [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Repeated_Copright_Violitions|ANI]]. I had converted the speedy to a "copyvio" with a note in edit summary, but had not yet had an opportunity to point to the assertion at the talk page when you deleted it. :) --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] <sup>[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]</sup> 13:47, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


... has messed up the numbering of the !votes. I could easily fix it myself; but tampering with another editor's !vote seems a bad idea. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 13:44, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
== Neutralhomer ==


:Thanks for letting me know, but someone else already fixed it, and I'm fine with that. --[[User talk:SarekOfVulcan|<span class="gfSarekSig">SarekOfVulcan (talk)</span>]] 13:48, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
{{user|Neutralhomer}} seems sincere in his unblock request, and promises to strike his problematic comments. I wanted to check in with you before unblocking (with the warning that further disruption will lead to an immediate reblock). Thoughts? Thanks, –'''[[User:Juliancolton|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:#36648B">Juliancolton</span>]]'''&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[User_talk:Juliancolton|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:gray">''Talk''</span></sup>]] 16:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not opposed to an unblock in theory, but given his previous gross-incivility blocks, I'm hesitant to believe that an unblock would help. How has he been on articles unconnected to this one? --[[User:SarekOfVulcan|SarekOfVulcan]] ([[User talk:SarekOfVulcan#top|talk]]) 16:50, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
::You may not have noticed, also, that those were from 2008. So while I don't condone what he said, it seemed, to me anyway, to be inappropriate hyperbole - but not a true opinion that an editor be actually executed "IRL". –<font face="verdana" color="black">[[user:xeno|'''xeno''']]</font>[[user talk:xeno|<font color="black" face="verdana"><sup>talk</sup></font>]] 16:53, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Doesn't matter what his opinion is: just that he expressed it here. Unless someone's perfected [[Mediawiki:Extensions/NeuralInterface.js]], and I missed it.... --[[User:SarekOfVulcan|SarekOfVulcan]] ([[User talk:SarekOfVulcan#top|talk]]) 16:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Yea, again, I don't condone the comments. [[WP:COOL]] violation, but a month seems a bit lengthy given that it's been nearly a year since the last block. I'd urge reduction, or commuting to time served. And I thought they had a [[Template:User nobrowser|neural interface]]? Unless [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User_nobrowser these folks] are lying! –<font face="verdana" color="black">[[user:xeno|'''xeno''']]</font>[[user talk:xeno|<font color="black" face="verdana"><sup>talk</sup></font>]] 17:02, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
::I agree, but he seems to have learned his lesson. Overall he's a fairly productive editor. Your call. –'''[[User:Juliancolton|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:#36648B">Juliancolton</span>]]'''&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[User_talk:Juliancolton|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:gray">''Talk''</span></sup>]] 16:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
:::If you think it's appropriate, go ahead and reduce it to time served. I'm not convinced, but you seem more familiar with his editing patterns than I am.--[[User:SarekOfVulcan|SarekOfVulcan]] ([[User talk:SarekOfVulcan#top|talk]]) 16:59, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I'd be alright with reducing the block duration to ~48 hours. –'''[[User:Juliancolton|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:#36648B">Juliancolton</span>]]'''&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[User_talk:Juliancolton|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:gray">''Talk''</span></sup>]] 17:04, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::That seems fair enough. Want to take care of it yourself, or should I? --[[User:SarekOfVulcan|SarekOfVulcan]] ([[User talk:SarekOfVulcan#top|talk]]) 17:05, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

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Feedback on potentially biased block[edit]

You have protected the Autism Speaks article because you say it will always be a target for what you term 'vandalism'. However, I feel this does not take the source of the "vandalism", and what I feel is the consequential enshrining of one side in a controversy without allowing the other side an opportunity to be heard. The reason I looked up the article in the first place was to find out why the administrator of the r:/autism reddit requested that no posts linking to that organization be posted because so many autistic Reddit members found them objectionable or questionable. And all I was thinking of doing, when I found there wasn't even an acknowledgement in the Wikipedia article that there even WAS any such controversy, was to add a perspective note worded something like, "To be fair, it should be noted that some people feel / believe / have a different opinion " ... whatever language it takes to be sure both sides have been fairly presented. If removing the block is a non-starter ... and I can understand how that might not be as simple as it seems ... please, in the interests of justice and fairness, at least add such a note yourself Dan O Shanter (talk) 06:13, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Full protection on Changi Airport[edit]

Hello, can you revert back to the last stable version on Changi Airport prior to the dispute? ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 13:39, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, I protected it at the version that stood when I got to it. Discuss on the article talk page. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's why I filed a report at WP:ANI/3RR. They did not bother to address the points I made on their talk page(s), and instead continued to edit war in the matter of WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT. Reverting to the previous stable version will give them the incentive to continue the discussion on the talk page like they should have, instead of persistently reverting. Also, they never bothered to address their COI editing. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 13:48, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So by that logic, you now have incentive to discuss on the article talkpage, and I again suggest you do so. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:56, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per this diff I explained the reasons why their edit was not an improvement on their talk page, and received no response. They instead kept edit warring in the edit summaries sticking to their own viewpoint. So who has the incentive to continue the discussion on the talk page exactly? Frankly speaking, protecting the page will not do anything as the other user showed no interest in continuing the discussion as long as their preferred logo is on the article. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 14:08, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The IP has not edited since you left that message, and also, THAT IS NOT THE ARTICLE TALK PAGE. You want your change to stick, get consensus ON THE ARTICLE TALK PAGE. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:13, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure that you understand that the IP and Caskin3 are clearly the same person (or a meatpuppet), as the latter was registered right after the IPs last edit and continued to edit war with the same viewpoint right afterwards. Regardless of the venue, they showed no interest in continuing the discussion on their talk pages atter I left them multiple messages and warnings. Also, there is absolutely no need to WP:SHOUT here. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 14:22, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your recent RfA !vote[edit]

... has messed up the numbering of the !votes. I could easily fix it myself; but tampering with another editor's !vote seems a bad idea. Maproom (talk) 13:44, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know, but someone else already fixed it, and I'm fine with that. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:48, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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